Bosch 4410 10Inch DualBevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw
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15 amps motor, 4,800 rpm. Large 21 aluminum base with sliding extensions for 37-1/4 total length. Tall 4-1/2 speed-track sliding fences. Crown miter detents, electric brake, spindle lock, dual rail design, upfront bevel lock lever. more info
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As usual, forum responses are grouped into two distinct categories: (1) It’s perfect–I love it, and (2) It’s crap–I hate it. Nothing in between. Nothing technical. Nothing specific. The only comment I have during my shopping around phase right now is, “It’s the 21st century. Any saw that won’t swing more than 45 degrees on the miter doesn’t deserve any consideration at all.” Ten websites shopping for this Bosch saw, including the official Bosch website, and not one revealed the miter capacity of this saw. That alone is enough to warrant buying another brand.
Looks Really Are Deceiving
Rating:2 out of 5 stars
This saw has some great features, but falls far short of the mark.
Out of the box I was impressed by the ease of use of the saw’s controls. It looked complicated, but was actually rather intuitive. The front located tilt lever is the best thing ever in a slider saw. The mico-adjust feature was rather cumbersome to use. I found it far faster and easier to just move the turntable to the desired fraction of a degree and then lock the table. I install trim in high end houses for a living and trust me, NOTHING is ever square. The micro adjust feature could have been a good thing. The lock on this saw is flawless by the way. The best I have used requiring just a light twist and having no creep. The saw has plenty of power and a good slide range, cutting stock in excess of 12″ at 90 degrees.
The features are great, but the overall performance is very lacking. When I went to check the saw for trueness I was suprised to find the fence was out of square by in excess of 3 degrees. No big deal I trued the fence and the saw cut great as long as I was at 90 degrees to the edge of the workpiece. This is where the problems started. I checked the tilt detents and they were spot on. The problem was that while cutting compound miters on wide stock the slide action did not seem to be in line with the blade. This caused severe binding and burning resulting in a “stepped” cut. Left tilted miters were much better than right tilted miters, but neither was acceptable. The binding/burning seemed to be a by product of two things.
1) The slide action was not in line with the blade for some reason while the saw was tilted.
2) There was a great deal of play (read;slop) in both the main arbor bearings and the main up and down pivot (knuckle) located directly behind the saw head. (The slide rod bearings had NO detectable play however)
The slop caused the blade to be able to hunt for a path of least resistence as it sliced through a cut. So the blade would wander causing a wavy cut.
This a great idea in a saw and has some great features, but it is not nearly up the standard it needs to be at. I used to do all the machine set ups and tuning for a large volume cabinet shop. Even with this experience and a Forrest blade installed I could not coax this saw to cut a straight line. I lost 6 billable hours over the course of 2 weeks trying to tune this saw. If you are a framer the front tilt feature alone would make this a great saw for you. For any finer work look elsewhere. I own a dozen or so other Bosch tools and they are all top notch and very durable, this saw misses the mark by a wide margin. I returned my saw to tool crib. Their customer service is second to none.
Not as cracked up as it should be…
Rating:2 out of 5 stars
I’ve owned lots of Bosch tools over the years and this one really pisses me off. Top of the line tool? Yeah. Micro adjuster? useless. Front bevel adjust? love it. Lock out for miter stops, love it too. But, it doesn’t cut properly when beveled. I have to work the saw to get a perfect cut. It won’t cut a straight line when beveled. I am a finish trim carpenter and work with stain grade wood on high end homes all the time and thought a 10″ might have more precision, not in this case. Fence would come out of square. The slide bar for the gaurd would bind too right at the ball bearing so, it would be difficult to bring the saw down to cut. And under one month out of warrenty the two aluminum pieces that rotate against each other for the bevel, yeah there chewed to hell. It developed an imperfection in two places and it wasn’t more than 4 swings of the bevel and now it’s junk! I’d need to preplace the barrel slide holder and the miter arm that it attaches to. Can fix this one for over half what it cost just over 1 year ago! I don’t think so. So, now I’m in the market for a new saw…
sucky saw
Rating:1 out of 5 stars
let me begin by saying that i have many bosch tools, and that they all perform very well. however, the miter saw in question is the worst that i have ever used. i am a professional trim carpenter in the tahoe area. in short the saw is over engineered. too many moving parts make for innacurate cuts.
Wish I hadn’t spent the money
Rating:2 out of 5 stars
I was excited about this saw when it first arrived, and it worked well until the warranty expired. When it went out of square, the autorized repair shop, with direction from Bosch, quoted over $350 to fix and said even that might not do it. They said it had been dropped or run over by a truck, both of which would be difficult since the saw had been on a stand since it was new. The shop recommended the Makita which surprisingly is made in America. I won’t be looking to Bosch for quality equipment.
Looks can be deceiving
Rating:2 out of 5 stars
Let me start out by saying that this saw has some very neat features. That is why I gave it 2 stars. The miter scale has such fat lines that is near impossible to tell exactly where dead center on the angle is.(Dewalts vernier scale is much better as you can see 1/4 of a degree). The micro-adjust feature sounds good, but is cumbersome to use. The blade is garbage. It does leave a real smooth feel, but try cutting a 3 X 3 piece of oak or brazilian cherry and laying a straightedge corner to corner to see that it is not a straight cut. My biggest problem with this saw is “head flex”. Even with the slide adjustments so tight that the head will not slide, I can get the blade to move side to side a full 1/16″. My old Dewalt DW708, which this saw replaced after five years of daily use, does not have that much head flex even now. I do like the upfront bevel lock, and the 33.9 degree bevel lock(not detent). But all the neat features in the world will not make a good saw out of one that will not cut straight. The average person may not notice some of this saw’s deficeincies cutting through 3/4″ base molding, but I am a exacting professional, and when the quality of my work is compromised, such as when cutting a stair rail easement to fit into a gooseneck, I cannot tolerate sloppiness. All my work is stain grade, so there is no caulk and paint to cover poor cuts. In my opinion, Bosch should never even have marketed this saw. I know several major woodworking magazines loved both the 4410 and the 4412, but I will never again trust some idiot writer’s opinion, nor will I ever buy tools sight unseen( try finding a store that stocks Bosch saws) again. Tomorrow morning I will be purchasing a new DW708 and this Bosch will be in the trash.
P.S. I am keeping my 1587 AVS jigsaw! Bosh at least makes them well.
You wont regret buying this saw!
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
This is the second mighter saw I have ever owned. The first was a plain little delta 10″. When I decided to upgrade i did a lot of research before buying. The blade that comes with the saw is very good. The double bevel is nice also, since the adjustment lever is up front. I have operated the dewalt 12″, and the bevel adjustment is a pain. So if you want a hard working, acurate, and reliable saw get this one!!
Great Saw at a Great Price
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
If you are like me, you do alot of reaserch before purchasing ANY product.
Let me start off by saying this, I have been a carpenter for over 20 years now and I have used plenty of power tools in my time. I would choose a product by Milwaukee over all others. I have purchased a good amount of Bosch tools in the past few years and my choice has been swayed from Milwaukee to Bosch. Don’t get me wrong, Milwaukee makes fabulous power tools, durable and reliable, but the tools I have purchased from Bosch seem to have the same quality’s I liked from Milwaukee but have some more thought put into the design of their tools.
This saw was perfect right out of the box. I went to calibrate it and everything was right on the money, bevels, miters and straight cuts. The design is SOOOO SWEET!! The bevel lock is right up front where it should be rather than behind the saw as all others are. They have conveniently placed any wrench needed for adjustment of this saw into the back of the saw in a hideaway compartment where the other brands put the bevel lock. I like the micro adjustment it has to fine tune the miter angle if I need an angle just off of the norm. The built in extention arms are a great feature that other manufacturers will make you buy seperate (although roller stands are essential for long lumber or trim) and the angles I can cut are greater than the 45 degree angles you will get on most saws (50 degrees left miter, 60 degrees right miter, 47 degrees left bevel and 46+ degrees right bevel). The workpiece clamp is one of the best I have seen on any jobsite mitersaw I have ever used. The only thing I didn’t like on this saw was that if you set the bevel to the right more than 30 degrees, the saw won’t cut all the way through lumber or trim unless you placed some scrap 2by lumber under whatever you are cutting, the beltdrive housing hits the fence even when the fence is in the extended position. Of course if anyone is familiar with cutting miters and bevels on a single bevel saw, any miters and bevels can be made on the left side of the saw to avoid using 2by lumber under the workpiece easily. If anyone isn’t familiar with that procedure….practice man, I had to before I had a dual bevel saw
. (It is a little bit of an inconvenience at times but not hard to accomplish.)
All the same, this saw rates 5 stars in my book. This saw should make ANYONE satisfied that purchases it. Take it from me, Big D.
Terrific
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
Every once in a while a piece of machinery comes out and changes the industry forever, the sliding dual bevel miter saw is one of these remarkable inventions. Hitachi introduced the sliding miter saw a few years back and ever since it’s inception all the other manufacturers continue to add features to justify the large pricetag.
Bosche has truly separated themselves with the 4410 and 4412. The ’04 saws are in a class by themselves. Just looking at them out of the box you can see the great care that was given to bridge functionality and aethsetics – if that matters, but if you are as big a tool-hound as I am, a nicely designed machine is as nice to look at as any classic car. But it is with the ease of which the compound mitering controls can be adjusted that places this machine head and shoulders above the rest. Everything is at the front- where you want them.
Perfomance is superb – capable of plowing through dense material with out bogging down and the finish of cut is quite good but of course that depends on the blade you use. The stock blade is better than most and if you really know what you’re doing you’ll have your own personal choice of blades.
The 4410 is good-to-go right out of the box and the factory settings were dead-on.
You’ll need a dedicated stand or table for this saw as it really isn’t the portable it claims to be but thats fine as it really deserves a stable home.
More to come in the next few weeks.
Hope this review was helpful
Bosch 4410 10″ Slide Miter Saw
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
I am very pleased with the 4410. It isn’t cheap, but it is worth the money. Easily one of the best 10″ slides on the market.
smooth operator
Rating:5 out of 5 stars
Built like a tank and smooth as silk. This 10″ can do almost everything a bigger 12″ can, but it’s a lot smaller and easier to handle. Everything is robust and well made, and even though it’s beefy, everything is very smooth and precise. I checked all the alignments from the factory and they were dead on. I didn’t have to adjust anything. I don’t know how comparable saws are, but the only thing that seemed like it could use some work was the dust collection. There is dust everywhere, but I really couldn’t see how the dust collection point could be in a better place. I seriously looked at 4 other saws including DeWalt and Ridgid and I’m convinced I definitely got the best saw and the best deal.